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  • 1.  Personal Introduction

    Posted 28-04-2019 00:08
    Hello Everyone, My name is Terrea and I am a fairly new to the TESOL profession. Currently I work online as a tutor and I have my TESOL Certificate from a state university. I am looking to network and grow professionally. I hope you all are enjoying your weekend.

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    Terrea Booker
    United States
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  • 2.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 28-04-2019 16:15
    Hi Terrea. I am also new to the TESOL community. I am TEFL certified and have three years of teaching experience and a bachelors in Sociology. I am in the process of applying to grad school for a masters in TESOL. I am a bit overwhelmed by all the options. Where did you get your certification? How long did it take you?

    Lauren
    United States

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    Lauren Wilson
    TEFL Instructor
    UCEDA
    United States
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  • 3.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 06:48
    Welcome, Lauren. The number of MA TESOL options is overwhelming. Ask yourself whether you're willing to relocate or not. The TESOL program at Eastern Michigan, where I'm a faculty member and advisor, can be completed in 16 months and provides very thorough theoretical and practical training. You can read about it here.

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    Ildiko Porter-Szucs
    Associate Professor
    Eastern Michigan University
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  • 4.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 10:12
    Hi lldiko,

    Thank you for responding to my message. It had been very overwhelming because I live in CT and want to go to school full time but I don't plan on teaching in CT when I finish. I'm a little confused about the license. I was told I can get my masters anywhere but the I need a teaching license from the state I plan to work in. Is that correct?  Does Eastern Michigan have an online program for TESOL? 


    Thank you,
    Lauren
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    Lauren Wilson 





  • 5.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 13:15
    HI Lauren,

    If I understand your situation correctly, you'd like to teach K-12 students in the US, your bachelor's is in sociology, and you have obtained some sort of TESOL/ESL/EFL credentials. If that's the case, then you'll need to pick a state in the US where you'd like to teach kids and on the state department of education's website check the credentials required for this.
    However, if you'd like to teach abroad or outside the K-12 system in the US, then the situation is different.

    In Michigan, I advise applicants in the first situation to first earn a K-12 teaching certificate through the college of education; this is in any primary teachable field such as elementary education, social studies, English language arts, science, etc. Then on top of that, they can earn an ESL endorsement through our TESOL certification program. But different states have different rules and you must follow them to a T to be eligible for jobs there. It's also possible to get K-12 certified in another state but then the local teacher certification test may have to be passed. It all depends on the reciprocity agreements between any two states.

    If you'd like to teach abroad or outside the K-12 system in the US, then the MA TESOL is what you want. Do note though that several schools abroad (such as the current job ads in SA) do not recognize fully online degrees, so be sure to know where you want to end up and what the requirements are there.

    Best wishes as you narrow down your options.
    Ildi

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    Ildiko Porter-Szucs
    Associate Professor
    Eastern Michigan University
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  • 6.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 13:44
    Thank you, Ildiko! This information is helpful for me too. Do you know what the difference is with the training from a university and a graduate institute? I am just learning about the ESL endorsement. 

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    Terrea Booker
    United States
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  • 7.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 14:06
    Sorry, I don't know what a graduate institute is.





  • 8.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 16:27
    Hi lldiko, 

    I truly appreciate your help. This clears things up a lot for me. 

    Thanks you,
    Lauren

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    Lauren Wilson 





  • 9.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 15:30
    If by "graduate institute" you are referring to somewhere like SIT, the answer is that it's not a full university. SIT has no undergraduate degree programs and only a limited range of graduate degrees (just in a small set of internationally-focused teaching and policy areas), so it doesn't fall under the definition of "university." It does, however, offer very high quality masters programs in the fields it covers, and is fully accredited, so the degrees are of equal quality and weight to MA degrees from a more comprehensive university.

    I have been extremely satisfied by my MA in TESOL from SIT and feel like my courses covered just as much as any MA elsewhere in the US.

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    Betsy Gilliland
    Associate Professor
    University of Hawai'i Manoa
    Chair, TESOL Second Language Writing Interest Section (2019-2020)
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  • 10.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 01-05-2019 09:16
    Hello Betsy, 

    Yes, I was referring to SIT. Also, I came across a graduate certificate program at Ball State University. Thank you for sharing your experience at SIT and details about how it's structured.





  • 11.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 01-05-2019 14:55
    Keep in mind that a "graduate certificate" is different from a "graduate institute." A grad certificate usually means you take graduate-level courses but do not obtain a degree. It would be useful if you don't need the degree but want to learn more about the field of study; since it's not a degree, it probably wouldn't count for much in terms of hiring, unless the institution has steps that count quantity of graduate credits taken (rather than just obtaining a degree).

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    Betsy Gilliland
    Associate Professor
    University of Hawai'i Manoa
    Chair, TESOL Second Language Writing Interest Section (2019-2020)
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  • 12.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 06-05-2019 18:24
    Congratulations Bets!  You made it!
    Master's programs are very difficult
    to achieve -- I know mine was no exception.
    I know you must be enjoying your time
    teaching in Aloha state.  Great job!

    ~ Enjoy spring ~

    MerriLee Leonard
    M.A.Ed.,TESL
    Greenville University (USA)
    +++


  • 13.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 08-06-2020 09:12
    Hey,

    I just signed the petition "Donald J. Trump: Donald Trump, resign the Presidency" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

    Our goal is to reach 5,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

    http://chng.it/GC74rG588P

    Thanks!
    Lauren





  • 14.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 08-06-2020 17:37

    Howdy Lauren,

    Who do you have in mind excellent who can replace the current executive office---Mr. Trump and why?  If about Co-Vid-19, surely you know the president didn't create the killer virus, correct?  In retrospect, if your discontent is about the current riot that we're seeing on the news, this event is quintessential of what occurred under the president's predecessor leadership.  Would you agree? 

    You are aware, of course, in less than 6-months we will have another round of presidential leadership election.  CoVid-19 did put the globe on a complete jolts---not just in the USA.  

    MerriLee  Leonard

    M.A.Ed.,TESL
    Greenville Univesity
    Author:  Beginner English Grammar Guide for English as a Second Language Students (1st Ed).
    ISBN-13: 978-1524962708.
    ISBN-10: 152-4962708.
    BookLink:  he.kendallhunt.com/product/...    
     

     

     




  • 15.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 07:51
    Dear Lauren,
    I would recommend that you pursue your Masters in TESOL. Southern CT has this program:  https://www.southernct.edu/program/bilingual-multicultural-education-tesol-ms
    You will still have to take state certification exams no matter where you teach, however you will have the ESOL Endorsement requirement taken care of.
    I received my MA in TESOL from NYU over 20 years ago, got certified in NY and taught ESL. When I moved to CT I had to either retake my exams or send in my SAT scores and fees ( I chose this option) because it is not a reciprocal license state. However, I now live in FL and just mailed in and converted all my licenses to FL licenses.

    The MA TESOL will also quality you to teach abroad, teach in college programs as an adjunct, and you will get a stipend in pay from most school districts for the additional degree.  Food for thought!

    Regards,

    Carla


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    Carla Huck, M.A.; M. Ed.
    ELL Instructional Leader
    School District of Lee County
    President, SWFL TESOL
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  • 16.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 07:58
    Hi Carla, 

    Thank you so much for you message. It is super helpful. I am actually applying to Southern right now. The only thing is I plan to teach in Northern Virginia/DC and possibly New York when I finish.
    Would you suggest I get my license from those states? 


    Thank you again,
    Lauren
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    Lauren Wilson 





  • 17.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 11:10
    Hi Lauren,

    I work in Northern Virginia. I'm attaching the endorsement list to get certified in ESL with Virginia DOE. I'm also attaching the pay scale of the school district I work for, Alexandria City Public Schools. There are other four main districts in this area

    Arlington Public Schools
    Fairfax County Public Schools
    Prince William County Public Schools
    Loudoun County Public Schools

    There's a high demand for ESL in this area.

    I hope this helps.


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    Rejane Martins
    Alexandria City Public Schools
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    Attachment(s)



  • 18.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 22:21
    Hi Rejane,
    I will take a look at it. Thank you so much. I really appreciate you taking the time to email me.

    Best,
    Lauren 
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    Lauren Wilson 





  • 19.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 08-06-2020 09:12
    Hey,

    I just signed the petition "Donald J. Trump: Donald Trump, resign the Presidency" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

    Our goal is to reach 5,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

    http://chng.it/GC74rG588P

    Thanks!
    Lauren





  • 20.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 08-06-2020 09:12
    Hey,

    I just signed the petition "Donald J. Trump: Donald Trump, resign the Presidency" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

    Our goal is to reach 5,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

    http://chng.it/GC74rG588P

    Thanks!
    Lauren





  • 21.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 10:08
    Lauren, if you are planning on working in the K-12 sector you need to consider state licensing/credentialing. Depending on the state and how they prepare people to teach English language learners, it may be better to get a credential, not an MA TESOL. The MA TESOL is usually the degree for people who want to teach ESL in the adult, college, or university IEP sector, either in the U.S. or around the world. A license isn't needed. You can read more at https://www.tesol.org/enhance-your-career/career-development/beginning-your-career

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    Kitty Purgason
    Biola University
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  • 22.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 10:32
    Hi Kitty,

    Thank you so much for the feedback. Wouldn't my salary be better if I had a masters in addition to a license?


    Lauren
    --
    Lauren Wilson 





  • 23.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 30-04-2019 11:16
    Lauren, it depends on the school district. I suggest that you get your initial teaching job first and then see what kind of masters would make the most sense given the needs of your students. You can compare required courses (e.g, pedagogical grammar) with what you need/want ("hmmm...teaching first graders doesn't require me to know complex grammar...") or elective courses (e.g., content-based learning, course design) with what you need/want ("great...just what I need to develop effective materials for teaching science to ELLs").

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    Kitty Purgason
    Biola University
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  • 24.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 08-06-2020 09:12
    Hey,

    I just signed the petition "Donald J. Trump: Donald Trump, resign the Presidency" and wanted to see if you could help by adding your name.

    Our goal is to reach 5,000 signatures and we need more support. You can read more and sign the petition here:

    http://chng.it/GC74rG588P

    Thanks!
    Lauren





  • 25.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 13:37
    Hey Lauren,

    I am in the same place as you. I only have a TESOL certificate. I haven't obtained any state certification, but I am also considering Masters programs. I not quite sure what I want to do outside of teaching abroad.

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    Terrea Booker
    United States
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  • 26.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 06:44
    Welcome, Terrea. We are a worldwide family, but if you ever want to get to know the ESL/EFL teachers in your state a bit better, I suggest that you also join your local TESOL organization and join their listserv as well.

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    Ildiko Porter-Szucs
    Associate Professor
    Eastern Michigan University
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  • 27.  RE: Personal Introduction

    Posted 29-04-2019 08:22
    Thank you! I will look into it.